of course government is already in their healthcare through medicare. the reason we have medicare is because of the democratic party in the 1960s under lyndon johnson that put that through. we have social security because of the democratic party in the 1930s under fdr. so there's a rich tradition of doing these kinds of things by the democrats. there's no doubt the party is not as populist based as it once was. whether the country as a whole has shifted that much or whether they were reading the wrong clips in the media, frankly i'm not sure we can tell you what it was but there definitely has been a shift in that sense. >> host: this e-mail from ron, all of your subjects seem to be basically revelations of corruption of american stereotypical ideal. what you believe is more the norm, corruption 0 idealism? aren't you driven to be per reppally pessimistic about the future of america by your work? >> guest: i don't see how -- anybody could be anything other than pessimistic when you look at healthcare, which is -- it's portrayed routinely by people in co